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Meeting room group:

Jon :
    wireless sensing system / Sense/Stage   https://sensestage.eu/
little sensor modules you can put them on the body , built-in motion sensing, they are designed to easily slap on a dancer and do motion response
i also have other sensors: environmental, hearth rate, light
this is something we could use on a project if we want to sensorize bodies
also have some gesture recognition toolkit that would be interesting to work with: constructing normative or non-normative gestures? or working with the edges of normative gestures
my personal interest is in personalized cartographies based on a sensory experience of the body in the world , which may lead to new kinds of maps and cartographies
i have been software engineering , i also have a background in sound if you want to do something with that , i teach interactive sound art and this what i use the sensors for
outside of what I know, I'd like to explore visualization - projections of multi-dimensional objects as maps,  visualization/representation of dynamics & processes of transition/change,  ways of visualizing and representing personal cartographies - or repurposing other methods of cartography (e.g. reservoir modelling) 

pet projects (I would really like to work on something in one of these directions):
* maybe working with Elvira? (trans programming language / live coding identity / dance) // lexicon..
* gesture recognition / challengeing gesture recognition as a system / non-normative & normative gestures
* how to visualize 'personal maps' / data streams of biometric and environmental recordings..

or relating to the questions:
    * how does the recording media/structure of representation deal with processes of transition
    * embodied/personal mapping strategies vs. static quality of classic cartography

the sensorial came back a lot in the lexicon
since the body is the place of change
safe space, memories, gestures, body language
there may be some connection

discussion downstairs: when alex was talking about his history
his documents are so inconsistent with each other
the new canadian regulation is that all of your documents have to be consistent
he has to erase his history of change
but part of his identity is this history of change
digital systems fail to capture things
digital inscription of movement and the body
he is kind of existing where there were no digital systems and now there are and he is hacking the system because of that
what can and cannot be captured in a system
this si a critique of cartography in general, the world is not static
i thought it was poetic how much work they have to do to make these maps
and the world has changed already when they are still inscribing the maps

Florence:
    open to experience something different from her practice (ph o tography)

Paulo:
    horizontality
i do performance art and installation
installations are very big and often vertifcal
i now put them horizontally and looking at the experience laying down
for that i kind of devised a skateboard that is cushioned which allows rolling on the board
i was thinking about night life
i am interested in dancing horizontally
i want to prepare a second one
i want to see a body moves in space
horizontally
and how different it is from moving vertically
what choreography naturally emerges from two people who dance horizontally

it crosses with queery that you cannot project yourself to others and 
i thought about a creature that can dance horizontally
merman, mermaid, or merx
i tried to dance with a tail for five minutes
the muscles that are required to dance with such a thing is quite different
i would like to push that further

Donatella
2 things
1) to keep on working with the lexicon, as a subjective category, knowing that i am not technical (personal cartographies of words, gestures, )
2) gesture of people: there are different kinds of languages. relate that to the installation of francois and the avatars, to use gestures and not only words

An:
I join you (>Dona)
What I find interesting is for the different presentations, there is a potential to think about a new species (in plural) that are a species of transition of transformation
that they have that as their core identity
to try to think about how they would look and speak
what kind of movements they would make
what kind of maps do the produce, if they present non-standard maps, what does that look like
putting agency into words and images
all parameters are variable

very vague, like all of us

joanna and the baby didn't work
maybe we can create new possibilities
new gestures and movements
i was interested by that
i found it very limiting the parameters

Pierre H:
Quick ethermap prototype from Pierre M and Pacôme : http://maplog.atelier-cartographique.be
maybe we can do something with this, mutlicursor on the same space

fantasy of stretched interfaces for maps: sketch on etherbox: - see
Falk maps > https://sites.arte.tv/karambolage/fr/lobjet-le-falkplan-karambolage
fictional startingpoints, try to deduce the maps that are needed to respond to it
create new conditions/constraints, see what kind of map will be needed, cfr Flatland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland

Pacôme:
try the tool we made
follow other wishes on cartography, would be happy to go out of my day-to-day practise

Pierre M:
the discussion yesterday morning
how layers of identities and borders are just playing together
especially when it comes to project that to a timeline or draw a history of someone
what do you keep and give away
artry? R-tree? R3?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-tree
discussion of yesterday afternoon: surprised, we do the same jobs, but he learnt it 30y ago, not rooted into geography as I know it now, connect dots/datastructures
today: connect geographic information to do something

Seda:
3 questions to look into:
happy to connect myself to any project that has one of these

1. scale, how does scale work? (phillipe's slide on 'normalization')
how you make systems scale?
take 1 example and study it closely
2. counting as a form of contestation (should you count gender?)
alternative: serie by Sarah Ahmed, talk about orientation & directionalities instead of identities   (Orientations: Toward a Queer Phenomenology?)
3. in information systems there has been a switch from static understandings of space to dynamic understandings of space
location was seen to define people, ex Marolles where working class live
now possible to see things in relationship, Nort h station area has very different demographic characteristics than at night
how to relate that to the work we do
current location services look like they're static but they are not completely building on a conception of static space / often dynamic space

transition as standard
dynamic idea of space: everyone is a geographical agent, the relationships between bodies determines space


Emma:
drawn to embodiment & technology
what a quantic being would look like
difference between generativity/autonomous & interactivity
autonomy?

Samuel:
happy to work on map experimentation
interested to link it with language/textual/lexical aspects

Jerôme:
start with the body, what is a body
try to map it
lexicon we started could be a parameter to create a map
no technical idea how to do that

Pierre T:
inspired by the term 'to be torn apart'
to be extended, in a bad/good way: you can be open to new things, but also you are stretched between 2 points, you can explose
interested to explore this term into linguistic/words: extend the meaning of a word, how much the meaning of the word can enlight into the point it makes the word obscure
also like to work on idea of layering (adding, adding, adding... more and more to a map, or layers of the earth)
make a connection to represent that, represent enlarging size of your word, maybe zoom infinitely
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/

most information systems are linked to idea of shrinking the world versus stretching the word :-D    :p
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0138567
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09296179408590003
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4020-4068-9_2

Philippe:
people asked me to do workshop on GIS & how to make maps
make hyperlocal maps (shows your local point but also simultaneously the whole globe) - ex . his map of nuclear reactors during the presentations earlier
we could maybe have a tower from which pictures are taken, also map covers the globe, you see everything from 1 point of view

3D-modelling of the body, via interior scanning technologies
map of the interior of the body 
CT scans and images of the interior of the body, 3D modeling of the body
Flubber: transforms any shape into any other shap e 
Flubber trans-shapes ( https://veltman.github.io/flubber/demos/medley.html )
it transforms a shape into any other shape

Map of bittorrent activity (GIS/d3 workshop)

Machine learning images (maps of anything)
we have complex elements of data, try to understand neighbourhoods (elements close to each other/clusters), you get a map

Mapping a nuclear city / hyper local global maps

Amelie :
scale and layers
layers of earth and layers of the human body
what happens if we compare earth to the human body

Possible threads

- stretching /scaling/squeezing
transpassport
incorporating all aspects how one presents/passes
what passport would look like, in space/time
- body how it is presented
- trans body
- passport/paper