Proposals Others discussions are on http://transmarcations.constantvzw.org/etherdump/wenesday-06-12 Meeting room group: Jon: wireless sensing system / Sense/Stage https://sensestage.eu/ little sensor modules you can put them on the body, built-in motion sensing, they are designed to easily slap on a dancer and do motion response i also have other sensors: environmental, hearth rate, light this is something we could use on a project if we want to sensorize bodies also have some gesture recognition toolkit that would be interesting to work with: constructing normative or non-normative gestures? or working with the edges of normative gestures my personal interest is in personalized cartographies based on a sensory experience of the body in the world, which may lead to new kinds of maps and cartographies i have been software engineering, i also have a background in sound if you want to do something with that, i teach interactive sound art and this what i use the sensors for outside of what I know, I'd like to explore visualization - projections of multi-dimensional objects as maps, visualization/representation of dynamics & processes of transition/change, ways of visualizing and representing personal cartographies - or repurposing other methods of cartography (e.g. reservoir modelling) pet projects (I would really like to work on something in one of these directions): * maybe working with Elvira? (trans programming language / live coding identity / dance) // lexicon.. * gesture recognition / challengeing gesture recognition as a system / non-normative & normative gestures * how to visualize 'personal maps' / data streams of biometric and environmental recordings.. or relating to the questions: * how does the recording media/structure of representation deal with processes of transition * embodied/personal mapping strategies vs. static quality of classic cartography the sensorial came back a lot in the lexicon since the body is the place of change safe space, memories, gestures, body language there may be some connection discussion downstairs: when alex was talking about his history his documents are so inconsistent with each other the new canadian regulation is that all of your documents have to be consistent he has to erase his history of change but part of his identity is this history of change digital systems fail to capture things digital inscription of movement and the body he is kind of existing where there were no digital systems and now there are and he is hacking the system because of that what can and cannot be captured in a system this si a critique of cartography in general, the world is not static i thought it was poetic how much work they have to do to make these maps and the world has changed already when they are still inscribing the maps Florence: open to experience something different from her practice (photography) Paulo: horizontality i do performance art and installation installations are very big and often vertifcal i now put them horizontally and looking at the experience laying down for that i kind of devised a skateboard that is cushioned which allows rolling on the board i was thinking about night life i am interested in dancing horizontally i want to prepare a second one i want to see a body moves in space horizontally and how different it is from moving vertically what choreography naturally emerges from two people who dance horizontally it crosses with queery that you cannot project yourself to others and i thought about a creature that can dance horizontally merman, mermaid, or merx i tried to dance with a tail for five minutes the muscles that are required to dance with such a thing is quite different i would like to push that further Donatella 2 things 1) to keep on working with the lexicon, as a subjective category, knowing that i am not technical (personal cartographies of words, gestures, ) 2) gesture of people: there are different kinds of languages. relate that to the installation of francois and the avatars, to use gestures and not only words An: I join you (>Dona) What I find interesting is for the different presentations, there is a potential to think about a new species (in plural) that are a species of transition of transformation that they have that as their core identity to try to think about how they would look and speak what kind of movements they would make what kind of maps do the produce, if they present non-standard maps, what does that look like putting agency into words and images all parameters are variable very vague, like all of us dona: i was talking with francois that his parameters cover some aspects but not other joanna and the baby didn't work maybe we can create new possibilities new gestures and movements i was interested by that i found it very limiting the parameters Pierre H: Quick ethermap prototype from Pierre M and Pacôme : http://maplog.atelier-cartographique.be maybe we can do something with this, mutlicursor on the same space fantasy of stretched interfaces for maps: sketch on etherbox: http://etherbox.lan/images/PH-pantofold-sketch.png - see http://etherbox.lan/images/PH-pantofold-layout.png Falk maps > https://sites.arte.tv/karambolage/fr/lobjet-le-falkplan-karambolage fictional startingpoints, try to deduce the maps that are needed to respond to it create new conditions/constraints, see what kind of map will be needed, cfr Flatland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland Pacôme: try the tool we made follow other wishes on cartography, would be happy to go out of my day-to-day practise Pierre M: the discussion yesterday morning how layers of identities and borders are just playing together especially when it comes to project that to a timeline or draw a history of someone what do you keep and give away artry? R-tree? R3? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-tree discussion of yesterday afternoon: surprised, we do the same jobs, but he learnt it 30y ago, not rooted into geography as I know it now, connect dots/datastructures today: connect geographic information to do something Seda: 3 questions to look into: happy to connect myself to any project that has one of these 1. scale, how does scale work? (phillipe's slide on 'normalization') how you make systems scale? take 1 example and study it closely 2. counting as a form of contestation (should you count gender?) alternative: serie by Sarah Ahmed, talk about orientation & directionalities instead of identities (Orientations: Toward a Queer Phenomenology?) 3. in information systems there has been a switch from static understandings of space to dynamic understandings of space location was seen to define people, ex Marolles where working class live now possible to see things in relationship, North station area has very different demographic characteristics than at night how to relate that to the work we do current location services look like they're static but they are not completely building on a conception of static space / often dynamic space transition as standard dynamic idea of space: everyone is a geographical agent, the relationships between bodies determines space Emma: drawn to embodiment & technology what a quantic being would look like difference between generativity/autonomous & interactivity autonomy? Samuel: happy to work on map experimentation interested to link it with language/textual/lexical aspects Jerôme: start with the body, what is a body try to map it lexicon we started could be a parameter to create a map no technical idea how to do that Pierre T: inspired by the term 'to be torn apart' to be extended, in a bad/good way: you can be open to new things, but also you are stretched between 2 points, you can explose interested to explore this term into linguistic/words: extend the meaning of a word, how much the meaning of the word can enlight into the point it makes the word obscure also like to work on idea of layering (adding, adding, adding... more and more to a map, or layers of the earth) make a connection to represent that, represent enlarging size of your word, maybe zoom infinitely http://wordnet.princeton.edu/ most information systems are linked to idea of shrinking the world versus stretching the word :-D :p http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0138567 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09296179408590003 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4020-4068-9_2 Philippe: people asked me to do workshop on GIS & how to make maps make hyperlocal maps (shows your local point but also simultaneously the whole globe) - ex. his map of nuclear reactors during the presentations earlier we could maybe have a tower from which pictures are taken, also map covers the globe, you see everything from 1 point of view 3D-modelling of the body, via interior scanning technologies map of the interior of the body CT scans and images of the interior of the body, 3D modeling of the body Flubber: transforms any shape into any other shape Flubber trans-shapes ( https://veltman.github.io/flubber/demos/medley.html ) it transforms a shape into any other shape Map of bittorrent activity (GIS/d3 workshop) Machine learning images (maps of anything) we have complex elements of data, try to understand neighbourhoods (elements close to each other/clusters), you get a map Mapping a nuclear city / hyper local global maps Amelie: scale and layers layers of earth and layers of the human body what happens if we compare earth to the human body Possible threads - stretching/scaling/squeezing > body and the earth & sensors as parameters > lexicon and images transpassport incorporating all aspects how one presents/passes what passport would look like, in space/time - body how it is presented - trans body - passport/paper